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Mesaj gönderen alabay » 14 Ara Cum, 2012 19:26

Ne yazık ki güvenilir ülke değil, problem orada. Kim malını belli olmayan yollardan gönderir. Kimse. Türkiye’nin ötesinde şu an itimat edebilecek ülke yok. Belki Ermenistan hariç, ki o da Azerbaycan ile problemli. Gürcistan Rusya ile problemli. Arap ülkeleri malum. Afganistan, Pakistan malum. Hindistan’dan itibaren işler yine biraz düzeliyor.

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Mesaj gönderen Engin Y » 15 Ara Sal, 2020 16:55

İstanbul - Tahran - İslamabad Yük Treni, 2021 başında seferlerine yeniden başlıyor: https://www.uab.gov.tr/haberler/istanbu ... e-aciliyor

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Mesaj gönderen Engin Y » 27 Ara Pzt, 2021 14:26

İslamabad-Tahran-İstanbul demiryolu hattında yük taşımacılığı 10 yıl sonra yeniden başladı: https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2021/gundem/is ... i-6840931/
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Türkiye, İran ve Pakistan arasında 2009'da hayata geçirilen ve 2011 yılında durdurulan "İslamabad-Tahran-İstanbul Yük Treni Projesi", bugün İslamabad’dan kalkan trenle yeniden başlatıldı.

İslamabad-Tahran-İstanbul hattında demiryolu yük taşımacılığı, 10 yıl sonra yeniden başladı. Pakistan, İran ve Türkiye arasında 2009’da hayata geçirilen ancak Pakistan’daki gelişmeler nedeniyle 2011’de sonlandırılan “İslamabad-Tahran-İstanbul Yük Treni Projesi” için bugün Pakistan'ın başkenti İslamabad'da Margalla Tren İstasyonu'nda tören düzenlendi.

Törene Pakistan Demiryolları Bakanı Azam Khan Swati, Pakistan Dışişleri Bakanı Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Türkiye'nin İslamabad Büyükelçisi İhsan Mustafa Yurdakul, İran'ın İslamabad Büyükelçisi Muhammed Ali Hüseyni, Ekonomik İşbirliği Teşkilatı'ndan yetkililer ve diğer davetliler katıldı. Törenin ardından yük treni Tahran üzerinden İstanbul’a gitmek üzere Margalla Tren İstasyonu’ndan hareket etti.

Pakistan Dışişleri Bakanı Qureshi, demiryolu yük taşımacılığının yeniden başlamasından memnuniyet duyduğunu belirterek, bunun bölgesel bağlantıda önemli bir rol oynayacağını ve bölgesel ekonomiye katkıda bulunacağını ifade etti.

YOLCU TAŞIMACILIĞI DA BAŞLAYACAK

Demiryolları Bakanı Azam Khan Swati de üç ülke arasındaki demiryolu yük taşımacılığının önemini vurgulayarak, bu hizmetin bölgede iş alanında yeni yollar açacağını kaydetti. Bakan Swati, yakında yolcu taşımacılığının da başlayacağını açıkladı.

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Mesaj gönderen Engin Y » 27 Ara Pzt, 2021 15:04

Yukarıda bahsi geçen trenin kaç günde İstanbul'a ulaşacağını araştırdım, dün İran'a giriş yapmış, yani Pakistan kısmı beş gün sürmüş: https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/468485 ... nters-Iran
The ITI railway project, or ECO freight train, was inaugurated with the first freight train moving on December 21 from Islamabad to Zahedan in southeast Iran.

Pakistani Minister for Railways Azam Khan Swati, along with Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, and Adviser to the Prime Minister on Commerce Abdul Razak Dawood inaugurated the Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul freight train at Margalla railway station, in Islamabad.

Iranian Ambassador to Pakistan Seyed Mohammad Ali Hosseini, as well as the ambassadors of Turkey, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan to Pakistan, in addition to the representative of the Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO) were also present at the ceremony.

Addressing the ceremony, the Pakistani minister for railways said, "Launching of the container train from Pakistan to Iran and Turkey was a long-standing dream of the countries of the region, which has come true again”.

Terming the ITI freight train an important milestone in Pakistan’s history, the minister said that business-to-business contact among the business community would further enhance through this train. He said the service would further strengthen relations between the three countries.

Also, Pakistani Foreign Minister Qureshi appreciated the resumption of ITI freight train and said the service would play an important role in regional connectivity and promoting economic activity in the region.

Adviser to the Prime Minister of Pakistan on Commerce Abdul Razak Dawood, for his part, said that ECO train as one of the most effective vehicles can help in expanding exports, imports and trade between member countries.

The length of the Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul railway is 6,500 km, of which 2,570 km is in Iran, 2,000 km in Turkey and about 1,900 km in Pakistan, which takes less than half the shipping time and will also be safer and more economical as compared to road.

ITI freight train will be operated regularly on Tuesday of every week. The freight train had nine wagons initially, said a senior railway official.

As per present arrangement to start the train and the schedule agreed jointly by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan, the running time between Drence-Kapikoy (Istanbul) and Zahedan-Tabraiz (Iran) will be 90 hours each. From Zahedan to Islamabad, the train would take 135.5 hours.

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Mesaj gönderen alabay » 27 Ara Pzt, 2021 15:30

Yazık, hiç haritası yok. Afganistan’ın zaten demiryolları yok, ama İslamabad–Zahedan acaip bir yol. Tünellerle direk batıya geçebileceklerine, ister istemez, cehennemin etrafında dolanıp ta aşağı çölden gezmek zorundalar, zorundayız. Acaip bir yol. İnşaallah işe yarar ve yol etrafı emindir. Pakistan’ı bu konuda hiç değerlendiremiyorum.

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Mesaj gönderen alabay » 27 Ara Pzt, 2021 15:42

Heh, kurcalaya kurcalaya şurada bir Pakistan demiryolları haritası buldum.

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Islamabad’tan yol Dera Ghazi Khan üzerinden mi, yoksa Bahawalpur yoluyla gidiyor acaba? Eninde sonunca Jacobabad ve Sibi üzerinden Zahedan’a devam ediyor. Acaip bir güzergâh.

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Mesaj gönderen alabay » 27 Ara Pzt, 2021 23:33

Beni şaşırtan, Quetta’yı da dahil etmeleri. Yük açısından mantıklı herhâlde, ama yol üstünde değil. Ve dahası, Herald’da şu ilginç pasaj yazıyor:
Be that as it may, the Quetta-Taftan railroad track among Pakistan and Iran needs to be overhauled as it was underlying the 1920s. In August, the Iranian Ambassador Syed Mohammad Ali Hussaini, Pakistani Railway Minister Sheik Rasheed Ahmed had declared that the practicality concentrate for the line has been finished for the up-degree of the Quetta-Taftan railroad track.
Hm.

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Mesaj gönderen Engin Y » 04 Oca Sal, 2022 10:50

Tren, İslamabad'dan Ankara'ya 13 günde ulaşmış: https://www.dawn.com/news/1667552/first ... hes-turkey
After a pause of around a decade, the first freight train between Istanbul and Islamabad via Tehran reached Ankara via Lahore, Taftan and Zahedan on Monday, completing its 17-day journey in 13 days. A second train is already on its way to Turkey.

“The first train that departed on Dec 21 from Islamabad carrying goods (mainly pink salt) reached Ankara (Turkey) on Monday evening. Before reaching its destination, the goods loaded onto the train were shifted to other bogies (trans-shipment) compatible with the Iranian and Turkish rail/gauge system,” Pakistan Railways Director (Operations) Imtiaz Ahmad told Dawn. “The train consisted of eight wagons carrying pink salt weighing 150 tonnes.”

He said the second train, which had departed from Azakhel dry port on Dec 28, carried 525 tonnes of soapstone. It has entered Iran and will reach Zahedan very soon where the trans-shipment-related work will be completed, he added.

To a question, Mr Ahmad, who is also the focal person for the Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad (ITI) train, said the Pakistan Railways earned Rs800,000 and Rs2.2 million from the first and second trains, respectively.

To another query, he said Iran would only be used as a transit country for the ITI train service, and all the goods loaded from Pakistan would only be transported to Turkey.

The pink salt was loaded onto trucks from Sargodha and shifted to the ITI train in Islamabad. The soapstone had been brought from Jalalabad (Afghanistan) and the freight forwarders got it booked on the ITI train as per the demand of the parties, he added.

Ahmad further revealed that a third train would also depart soon for Turkey, as the demand and load is currently under assessment by freight forwarders.

“We are also expecting transportation of various goods to Pakistan from Turkey and the freight forwarders there are working on it,” he said.

After a gap of around 10 years, the resumption of the ITI train service from Turkey was scheduled for March 4, 2020 with its arrival in Pakistan on March 16 and return to Turkey after three days.

However, later, mishandling, negligence and other administrative issues allegedly on the part of the authorities concerned delayed the service, forcing Turkey and Iran to cancel orders for hundreds of tonnes of goods from Pakistan. The Pakistani authorities, keeping in view these observations, suspended services of the then Pakistan Railways Freight and Transportation Company director (commercial) on charges of inefficiency and misconduct to pacify the two countries.

The Economic Cooperation Organisation (ECO) secretariat continued holding meetings with senior officials of the three countries over resumption of the service, but issues related to rationalising the freight charges, track repair (Quetta-Taftan), appointment of freight forwarding agents on the part of Pakistan as well as US sanctions on Iran barring transportation and delivery of goods could not be resolved.

No meeting was conducted by the ECO secretariat in this regard from May to September last year.

Later, the Railways Ministry intervened and managed to get various issues resolved in association with the authorities concerned. “It is a matter of great importance as the ITI train operation has finally resumed after many years,” PR Chairman Dr Habibur Rehman Gilani told Dawn.

He said restoration of Pakistan Railways with the international rail network would make a considerable contribution to boosting the country’s economy. “We have constituted a special team to monitor the PR’s international rail operations to ensure safe and smooth transportation of the goods.”

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Mesaj gönderen Esat » 04 Oca Sal, 2022 21:44

iyi süre gibi, yani harita üzerinde göz kararı bakıyorum :) bence en hızlı yine bizde gitmiştir :)

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Mesaj gönderen Engin Y » 12 Oca Çrş, 2022 13:18

Ya bu arada, üzerinden bir hafta geçmiş, ama yeni fark ettim ki 3 Ocak'ta Ankara'ya gelen trene 5 Ocak'ta karşılama töreni yapmışız: https://www.tcddtasimacilik.gov.tr/haber/700/

Her şeyimiz şekil, her şeyimiz yapmacık..

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